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Positive Creed Issue #27 DIY Punk Fanzine - Interview Printed - October 2015

If you're a Positive Creed regular then you might remember reading our review of System of Hate's first two EP's some time ago. This five piece play great punk music and will hopefully have an album out soon so give them your time. They will also be playing Rebellion in August are are on my definite list of bands to see. Thanks to guitarist Pat Crawford for taking part in this interview.

Sorry that it's taken so long to interview you Pat. I'd planned on featuring System Of Hate a while ago but it never happened so i'm glad to have the opportunity to speak with you at last. How's it going and what's happening with the band at the moment?

Hi Rob, all positive mate, we have just gigged with the UK Subs, which it doesn't get any better when you play in a punk band, we have a hometown gig with Dirtbox Disco which we are promoting next week (15th May) and we have just booked the studio to start recording our debut album, next month (June).

What's the idea behind re releasing your second EP 'Insanity' and giving it an industrial remix?

I was in a Punk band a few years ago and one of the lads was studying recording / music techniques, etc and he took one of the tracks that band recorded and took it somewhere totally different, the idea always stuck with me. No one else seemed to be doing anything like that currently, so I suggested it and all the lads were up for it. Lyndon Scarfe an ex-member of the Barnsley 80's Goth band; Danse Society, is a friend and after a little persuasion, he agreed to do the remixes which are absolutely brilliant.

The first thing that caught my attention when I heard System Of Hate is the use of keyboards which kind of took me by surprise a bit as it's not the usual thing that punk bands tend to have but i really like the sound that it creates. Did you set out to try and create something outside of the standard punk formula when the band initially started?

We believed if we starting a new band we couldn't just come out with 1-2-3-4 Punk or Punk by Numbers, however you want to put it and don't get me wrong there's a place for it. But we knew we'd be scrutinised for our previous work in Total Confusion and we needed to set out on a new path, come up with something more inventive. Paddy O'Neill the bass player pushed for the dark vibe, and we all went with it. We talked about a second guitar player but that would just take us where we'd been before, so the keyboards was an ideal choice.

You've played alongside some of the big punk names such as the UK Subs and the Angelic Upstarts. How healthy is the UK punk scene these days?

The Punk Scene is very healthy, we went to see the UK Subs in Wakefield a few weeks back as guests at Wakefield, it was a Sunday and the place was absolutely rammed, on a Sunday as well. The Angelic Upstarts, who have also become friends of ours, play less frequently so they always pull a decent crowd. There's a few places who run a monthly night now on our doorstep and they are pulling well. The people into Punk have stayed loyal and always will, I don't think they're looking or will find anything different to cater for their needs. I think the recent Election results aren't going to harm Punk in anyway.

The band has put out a couple of EP's so far. Will there be an album released this year at all?

Like I said earlier we are booked in the Studio next month (June), it will be a slow process as we have to work round shift patterns / holidays, etc, like most bands. Carl our drummer had a shoulder operation recently so that set us back a while, we had to wait til he was fighting fit, which he is now. We want to get it perfect, so there is no rush.

I'll be checking you out at Rebellion this year for sure. What can we expect from your performance? What are your thoughts on the festival?

This is our 3rd Year playing and we are so happy to be on the bill again. It's the best Festival in the World for me, it caters for every genre of Punk and you've got four days of drinking and catching up with friends, what else do you want or need? I have been as a punter as well, so seen both sides and it's run so well, it's a credit to the Organisers. From System Of Hate you will get the full on dark Punk experience, same as last year really but the set list will consist of completely new stuff from the 2014's performance, most of the stuff will go on the album, we hope anyway, we play Thursday this year, so we'll be a lot fresher, we played Sunday last year, ha ha. You also get a Punk band with a keyboard not a common site at Rebellion.

Due to the likes of Facebook and Twitter, it's now relatively easy to promote your music but it also means that millions of others are doing the same so i'm curious to find out how difficult it is to get noticed and interest from people?

I think if you left it totally to Facebook and Twitter, you aren't going to get anywhere, you've got to get out live, people in Punk still like a CD in their hand and they really appreciate that you've come to play where they live. With Facebook and I'm no expert, doesn't only a fraction of your followers see the posts? So it's not working as it should, we still use it and find it very useful but it's not the be all and end all.

System Of Hate started out as a side project but ended up becoming the main focus. Do you guys still involve yourselves with other projects?

No side projects now, we had two members of the old band who made their living from playing music professionally, so the Punk band was their side project. As time went by some of us really enjoyed writing music, rehearsing and gigging. It was no longer possible to get together regularly, so out of frustration the side project came about and that's how System Of Hate was eventually conceived.

The lyrics seem an important part of what the band is all about but the subject matter is not instantly obvious to me which i think is a positive thing as it requires more attention to the words. Is the writing process aimed towards a political theme?

We are extremely lucky the main body of the lyrics come from Eric Sutcliffe, the brother of our singer, Dave. He was an original member of the other band but was never comfortable playing live, I replaced him in actual fact. He still sends the lyrics to us, he writes in a Biblical style, the end of the World is a common theme, so is there a political theme, Absolutely! We all dabble a bit lyrically but no one comes close to Eric, he's the man. Being from Barnsley how can politics not enter into our songs, it's in our blood, as well as our hearts.

I am not a big fan of tribute bands, especially within the world of punk and it still puzzles me why people dedicate so much of their time to them when there are bands such as yourselves that write original music and deserve attention. What are your views on the subject?

There's nothing Punk about tribute bands, I can't knock the members of the bands, because at the end of the day, they are playing music for a living and doing exactly what we want to do full time but I can't get my head round the pretending to be someone else, etc. Punk is about being yourself, I just don't get it.

What does the future hold for the band? Do you have any specific plans in mind?

The album is our main priority, gigging as much as we can and trying to get a little further afield to play, but all in all, keeping on this road and enjoying our selves.

It's been a pleasure talking with you Pat. Thanks for chatting with us. Anytime mate, I'll send you the album as soon as it's done, take care. (Lisa from Whatever 68 Radio) INTERVIEW (January 2015)
Get to know UK's System of Hate with Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone
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PUNK GLOBE: Give us a brief history on System of Hate and how you got involved with them! (include band members names and position)

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: The System Of Hate was put together at the back end of 2011. Suty, Paddy and Pat were members of Barnsley based punk band Total Confusion, the band was struggling to further themselves due to work commitments. Initially Paddy set up a side project just to record songs in a similar style with some members of the band, to kill the downtime but again this lost momentum. From there Paddy, Suty and Pat started writing together and came up with 5 or so songs, these were rehearsed in a studio, a drummer was required, Carl was the first to come in and he's been in ever since, and System were born. Band member - Suty - vocals, Paddy - bass, Pat - guitar, Carl - drums & Martin - keyboards (he joined late 2013 from the band Danse Society) I joined officially about a year ago ... I had worked on the Official Damned web site as an administrator to their forum board and in the think tank for P.R company Propaganda who did the P.R work for the Grave Disorder album /tour. I also did album artwork and t shirt design and posters and P.R work for a Barnsley punk band the X Rippers. As I knew Pat from the X Rippers and Total Confusion era and had worked with him on a few charity gigs id done, after id attended a few gigs it wasn't long before I started doing artwork graphics and P.R work for them... Now known as the 6th member ... The GURU

PUNK GLOBE: What other projects do you have?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: Nothing at the moment as the System of Hate takes most of my time ... but that's not to say I won't be in the future

PUNK GLOBE: What do enjoy most about being involved in the music scene?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: Everything the great people and the enthusiasm people have for punk after all these years

PUNK GLOBE: Do you have a favorite local venue ?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: Polish Club Rock and Blues venue in Barnsley UK great little venue and Rebellion in Blackpool played last 2 years and we are playing again in 2015

PUNK GLOBE: What bands have System Of Hate played shows with? any faves?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: Wow this is really hard ... Dirt Box Disco , UK Subs , Angelic Upstarts, Discharge, Spunk Volcano, Gold blade, Sham 69, Peter & The Test Tube Babies.

PUNK GLOBE: Other then System Of Hate what other bands do you enjoy listening to?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: All sorts ... from punk to psychedelic .... Doors, The Damned, Killing Joke, Wooden Ships, Joy Division, UK Subs, Rudimenti Peni, Dirt box Disco, Lords of Altamont, Stooges....just to name a few

PUNK GLOBE: What is your thought of a perfect music scene?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: Ha ha ... will there ever be one ? Where we all got paid accordingly and not shafted as they try to do

PUNK GLOBE: Other then Band stuff what else do you do for fun?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: Drink ... And basically have a great time when were out gigging...

PUNK GLOBE: Does System Of Hate have any tours/shows coming up?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: See We are playing Rebellion 2015 in Blackpool again in august the biggest punk festival in the UK And our album of all new recorded material will be launched at Rebellion 2015

PUNK GLOBE: What's your outlook on the record industry today?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: Well its all contrived mass produced bile ... keep it d .i. y that's the way forward.

"Well its all contrived mass produced bile ... keep it d .i. y that's the way forward."

PUNK GLOBE: Is System Of Hate signed with any labels?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: No as yet but S.O.H. are open to sensible offers

PUNK GLOBE: What System Of Hate song do you like the best?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: All of them ... but the new songs are getting better and better as they are written .... So wait for the album in august 2015

PUNK GLOBE: Who writes the songs?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: In general Paddy or Pat bring in individual ideas to rehearsal and as a band it's made into a song. Also Paddy & Pat may have worked on something together and that is worked out in rehearsal too, You never know how it's going to work til the drums and vocals go on but in general in seems to work.

PUNK GLOBE: How often is practice? is it planned or random?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: Usually once a fortnight but can be once a week depending on how work patterns fall.

PUNK GLOBE: Where can the readers find you and System Of Hate?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone:, &

PUNK GLOBE: Anything you would like to add? Any shout outs?

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: Just to all the people who have and are supporting us and the venues we had had the privilege to play And all of the lads in the System, they're a pleasure to work and be involved with.

PUNK GLOBE: Thanks Brian for the interview and always being so good to me WE68 and PP Promo Records

Brian 'Iggy' Featherstone: You're welcome keep up the great work (Polish Mike) INTERVIEW (22nd January 2014) - System Of Hate - Web

Could you give a brief history of System of Hate and a discography?

System was set up as a side project to Total Confusion, the main reason being 2 members made their living playing music on a weekend, so gigs & rehearsals were getting harder to commit to. Out of sheer boredom System of Hate became the main priority and songs came thick and fast. Once Carl joined on Drums the project became a band and 7 songs were recorded in March of 2012, with the first gig taking place in January of the following year. We have recorded one 4 track E.P. “The Immortal E.P.” The “Insanity E.P.” will be out very soon, another 4 tracker. We start our debut Album, this year."

How would you describe your sound?

Dark Punk.

Who makes up the band and what do they do?

Suty – Vocals, Paddy – Bass, Pat – Guitar, Carl – Drums & Martin – Keyboards.

What other bands have you all played in before and do any of you play in other bands?

Total Confusion (Suty, Paddy & Pat), The X Rippers (Pat) & Carl has played all over Europe in cover bands. Martin is also a member of The Danse Society.

What’s in the pipeline for System of Hate?

We are set to release our second E.P. “Insanity E.P” imminently, just waiting on the final mix and possibly looking at someone putting it out. We will be making a start on a full length album in the next few months. We continue to look for good gigs, with great bands and run our own nights in Barnsley, under the banner of Barnsley Punk Promotions.

What gigs have you got coming up?

We have a gig at the World famous “100 Club” in London in April and a return visit to the largest Punk Festival in the World, REBELLION at Winter Gardens, Blackpool, in August, so we are extremely happy. We also have supports with 999, The Lurkers, Discharge, Angelic Upstarts and Crashed-Out, we hope to pick a few more up before the year is out. We also have stuff in Barnsley to organise.

What’s been the best and worst moment of System of Hate’s existence?

We didn’t start gigging until 2013, so It’s all been brilliant , what we’ve achieved in one year of gigging is absolutely amazing, the gigs we’ve picked up, the friends we’ve met, Rebellion was a big one, playing with the Angelic Upstarts twice and the Subs of course. No worst moments, we don’t look at the negative, we do what we can and get on with it.

What is there in punk to get excited about today and how healthy do you think the scene is at present?

We joke that there’s 67 genres of Punk, I don’t know how many there really is? That’s what really excites me, Punk these days can be any style, any sound, as long as it spits and bites and has the D.I.Y. feel of Punk, it’s Punk. I think it’s very healthy, you think of any other genre of music which has gigs all over the UK, almost every weekend, and the people are still so loyal to the old bands, so there are always great opportunities to play with the ‘old guard’, to a full room.

What’s the best thing about being in System of Hate and what’s the worse?

Playing in a band and you know it’s good, you trust every member to do their thing and you know they won’t let you down. I also really get a buzz from rehearsals, you can come up with a riff, start playing it, everyone in the room joins in and from time to time you have a brilliant song, it still amazes me. I know it said “thing” but got to mention playing live, it’s all about playing LIVE. Worse thing is not seeing other bands play because you are busy playing yourself.

What would you say that System of Hate bring to the table that differs from any other punk band?

I think we have different ideas, a different sound, we have a keyboard player for a start, you don’t see too many and the bass player is filling spaces normally filled by one of 2 guitarists. We just decided we needed to do something different or there would be no point starting a new band.

How would you sum up System of Hate in 5 words?

Hard Dark Street Goth Punk.

Where you like to be with System of Hate in 10 years?

Still playing and more importantly writing and recording something that is still relevant. And of course watching Charlie Harper jump up and down and say, “He’s 80 years old you know!”

What bands should we keep an eye out for?

I’d say check out the New Band Stage at Rebellion Festival. But all the gigs we play, all the support bands are good and the members can really play, I’d say don’t just go watch the big bands, turn up early and watch some of the support bands, you might get a very pleasant surprise.

If you were to explain punk to someone who had never heard the word before, what would you say?

Punk is :- attitude, free thinking, acceptance, friendship, noise, pleasure, pain, life, death.

Any final comments?

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FUNGALPUNK INTERVIEW (2nd April 2013) - Paddy Of System Of Hate - Web link

1. So a new venture, System of Hate - why the new band in such times when it is really difficult to hear a voice in the multitude of musical offerings?

Well the band started out as a recording side project to Total Confusion. I was heavily influenced by bands like UK Subs, Killing Joke, Joy Division, Rudimentary Peni, Amebix.

I was interested in music that was very dark and heavy that had a real meaning and message to it. I must admit I do enjoy all genres of punk but the dark heavy stuff really rocks my boat.

2. Tell us about the set-up - the faces in the band, their roles, the experience they bring and what, ultimately, is the raison de'tre for the bands existence?

The band line up is - Suty - vocals, Pat - guitar, Carl - drums and me the Paddster on ‘Sledge Hammer’ Bass.

All the members of the band have played in other bands (Civilians, X Rippers, Total Confusion etc.) and have played loads of gigs up and down the country and recorded demo’s and CD’s. As you know, we are definitely not in our youth any more, but just because we are older doesn’t alter the fact that Punk Rock runs through our veins. A lot of our friends are long gone, bless them, and we feel we need to carry on doing the thing we love for as long as possible. We don’t think we will ever be too old to gig and record. Long live Punk Rock.

3. What new strategy will you have in trying to get your noise heard and in getting plenty of giggage?

Well Mr Fungal, as you well know, if people come to watch us, they will definitely hear us. We are a set of noisy fuckers. We haven’t really got new strategy, just going to use the old tried and tested way that seems to have worked for us in the past. People have started to hear about System of Hate and there has been a lot of interest as to when we are going to be out gigging. We have been promoting the new band via the internet and we have had quite a bit of radio play of our new ‘Immortal’ EP, which is getting us heard, and so far the feedback we are getting is good.

We’ve already have a website setup –

As a new strategy, we did think about playing live in the nude but with middle age spread, and I mean a lot of middle age spread, we soon went off the idea as the crowds are not big to start with, so we thought we would give that one a miss.

4. What problems within the scene did you find with your old unit Total Confusion and how do you hope to overcome these (if any) with the new unit?

One of the biggest problems was and still is work commitments outside the band, we all have to earn a wage and families come first. Problems within the scene - well not so much as a problem more of a irritant than a problem pay to play promoters and venues that want you to play, fetch a crowd and advertise the gig. Then low and behold no pay, no drinks etc. so how do we overcome this problem - easy we just don’t do anything that doesn’t appeal to us anymore. But I must stress there are some good promoters out there. Our last band Total Confusion have played and been offered expenses in the past and we have turned it down because of certain circumstances - you get to know who the good guys are.

5. What are your feelings on the current 'punk' circuit and does this label hold many of us back in the quest to get noticed and spread the word?

Our feelings on the current punk circuit, the circuit is split in two you know, the have and the have not’s, named bands it’s great to support them but a lot of them show no respect at all - they want their coin and can’t even be bothered to watch the support bands, too busy selling their merch and telling us thirty year old rock and roll story’s and how bad the scene is but if you buy a t-shirt and a CD the worlds all sunny again. I am sure you all know the story.

6. The fracturing of the scene with many sub-generic pools can be both negative and good but one thing I pick up on is a lack of cross-over. Why do you think it is that people are unwilling to try different styles, mix and match what they listen to and stick within certain comfort zones?

You mentioned comfort zone Ithink a lot of bands do that. They seem to go down one path and stay on it. You know the old saying if it’s not broken don’t fix it, but I myself really like different styles of punk or music in general. System of Hate has a very dark sound and the content of the lyrics are very dark as well, we used a lot of effects on bass, drums are very tribal. We are just demoing some new songs now and they are very different from the ‘Immortal’ EP. One of our new songs, ‘Ashes Of Divinity’, is probably one of the heaviest songs we have ever done. It has a very Killing Joke come Amebix/Joy Division feel to it so I would say we have broken our comfort zone and long may it continue. System of Hate will not be frozen in the past, we will keep moving forward with sound, lyrics and structure.

7. The festivals are increasing in number - any thoughts on the positives and negatives of these much sought after showcases?

I agree that the number of festivals are increasing.

Positives:- Meeting like minded music loving piss heads that want to put two fingers up to the world for a couple of days.

Negatives:- Am sure that they were a punk band from Bradford that got in John Peels top 100 . No really, it always seems to rains at festivals. The biggest negative for me has got to be the reforming of one hit wonder bands that try to reinvent their history to fit into today’s scenes . I have seen loads of bands with one good song in them and still have one good song in them. But when opportunity and money come knocking at the door, ya know, and there is only one original member from the band, it does become a bit like a karaoke machine.

8. 'PUNK' - a much abused, raped and taken for a ride word - what does it mean to you and do you flow with this 'punk can be anything' vibe that seems to detract from the very core of its meaning?

Yes, the word punk is abused and raped. Once got asked the same question in a radio interview, so here goes-

The word punk, or definition of the word is derived from American prison slang; for male homosexual, worthless person, the lowest of the pecking order within the prison system. The press needed a name to describe the type of music that certain people were playing up and down the country; who were playing loud, fast and aggressive dark music. The term Punk rock was born. The gimp masks, bondage trousers, Mohawk hair styles and safety pins was all a manufactured image that was made to shock for money. To me, Punk was about attitude, not clothes or who could play best. Punk was a clear message to the youth to question authority, politics, war, religion and society in general. Punk music:- hardcore, old school, oi, 77, 82, whatever genre, if it rocks your boat its punk rock.


9. What are the bands immediate plans sat for the next 12 months. I am always keen for bands to do a split release, has this ever been a consideration and if so what style of band would you like to hook up with?

The next 12 months for SYSTEM OF HATE, is going to be very busy. We have already got a lot of gigs booked as support slots and we have arranged some local gigs. We are currently tightening up a few loose ends for our first London gig. We are just getting ready to start recording our new album. As a band we have been very lucky to have demoed all the songs we have wrote. It has given us loads of ideas for the new album and what direction we want to go in.

I’m sure the band would consider a Split release, but I’m not too sure on what style of band we could do this with as our new songs are taking a much darker and heavier edge. The answer would have to be who would consider to do a split release with us.